... So the windmill thread made me look at who's making the windmill propellers. Dunno, but here they are being hauled around on a ship rigged for hauling them. (btw, article said that ship's wheelhouse is on the front of the ship for visibility reasons) So the question I have is who is making the windmill components seen in my west Texas video ? ML - P.S. I won't be leaving this post up no longer than it takes for someone to say where they are being made.
821 likestomfrischmgr I saw blades and turbines being loaded or unloaded today in superior Wisconsin/Duluth Minnesota harbor. Lots of parts on the dock and a ship mostly loaded shut from the bridge at 55mph I could not say loading or unloading.
laruetactical ... Danger to aircraft ... https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/blog/2017/february/widow-sues-faa-for-wind-turbine-airplane-crash/ 3 likes
bear_thevizsla Most likely GE is manufacturing them
y3328wade Several different companies make them. Them are made throughout the world. Texas receives alot through Mexico. The turbine business is big, and alot of money is thrown around. I work for a crane company that assembles and builds them
- laruetactical @y3328wade ... I-80 had 60 mph winds last week. Thought I'd be reading about a couple of those cranes going over.
- y3328wade @laruetactical a lot of counter weight lol.
ejtsolutions Majority imported through the port of Houston. :(
t_soria8 There's a guy here in Ennis Texas that has a transportation business and that's all he hauls across the country. He has people in Altamira , Tampico Mexico where they get ship from China and they bring them to the border for him to pick up. This is what he has told me in so don't really know if they do or don't come from China
cj_kelly Greta:"how dare you" 1 like
fiesta346 One wind turbine will never generate the energy it takes to build that exact turbine ❓❓ 1 like
- large_tall @fiesta346 now let's talk about ethanol...
gurvanetrisfina LM Windpower in Little Rock, AR used to make blades but closed earlier this year
mr.tylerj I worked for a state port. Ships wheel house was not at the bow. I know info on some of this if you have questions.
ken.fechtler BBC Charttering has 140 ships. Several have wheel house on the bow.
greatdayfor2a Flordia Louisiana and south Carolina at least state side thats where they are made
404.error__not.found Giant plastic blades that are functional for two decades but will last for thousands of years.
mandpfan Same place bat soup is on the menu.
jeepjake78 I saw a similar ship in Duluth, MN on September 3.
slavioli_690 Who cares where they are made, you can't recycle fiberglass. So the blades end up sitting in a landfill eventually, turning the soil into a toxic mess. Thanks green energy. 3 likes
- laruetactical @slavioli_690 ... Fiberglass ? Wait, someone said they are made of balsa wood. 2 likes
- slavioli_690 @laruetactical if only.
- vodkaparty7 You posted exactly my comment. Wind is a sham. Solar's an okay solution in sunshine states but the real winner is nuclear 1 like
- slavioli_690 @vodkaparty7 you're right, that was point. Solar is still shit from a disposal point of view.
pmjohnny08 MFG Texas out of Gainesville TX does a bunch of OEM parts for Turbines, their blades, and repair services/refurbishments.
bassman3486 The ones in West Texas are owned by Chinese Investments Companies. Theu got a 20 year tax break on them, guess what, the tax break ended and they are pulling them all down.
erkel119 Are they made in China ?
tamiller52 Isn't there a graveyard of windmill parts down there in Texas also!?!?
l_to_the_bry GE has them made in Brazil and dropped off in Brownsville or Galveston.
jochumtj Say it with me, "ChI-Na"
walt511 Italy makes alot of large composite components, including the Boeing dreamliner monocoque, maybe Italy? And I work and live in West Texas and they are hideous as hell. Cost a fortune to build with mostly tax subsidized dollars and then TXU asks if you wanna pay more per kilowatt for the power.
- walt511 That Vessel is flaged out of Liberia though so who knows.
jakewirtz I saw a bunch of these on a train in Spring Texas about a month ago.
jim_fusco There is a place on 35 in waxahachie that has tons of wind turbine stuff.
bob_fargus I believe Siemens make a lot of them.
predator.tx How many blade revolutions does it take for a windmill to produce enough energy to offset the amount of energy it took to make a windmill?
thejoeeckelsisnthererightnow @laruetactical the Westinghouse Factory on 35 in Georgetown at roughly FM1431 (across from Bass Pro Shops) makes wind turbine propellers! 1 like
- laruetactical @thejoeeckelsisnthererightnow ... In '79, I worked there running their big "C" aisle manual lathes. 💪 1 like
caglvs Biggest scam ever perpetrated on the global population
durand156 @laruetactical I don't recall if they are being imported or exported but up doing some training on Lake Superior last year lot of them stacked up in harbor
reichenbach128 L.M. Wind Power makes blades in Little Rock,Ar.
coldwarconcealment I would see crazy long tractor trailers hauling the propellers south from the Albany NY area. Didn't know what the hell they were for a long time, someone finally told me what they were
pdxgonegator That seems like an awful lot of trouble to kill bald eagles when you could just shoot them.
- laruetactical @pdxgonegator ... Good point, cause shootin' 'em has kickbacks too. 2 likes
capt_in_a_hat China
bluesrt10 Studies are showing they do more environmental damage than good and require more energy to produce and place than they will ever produce! 3 likes
- large_tall @spyguy8080 Huge money and a lot of it from taxpayer subsidies. Total bullshit. Going up by the hundreds in the Dakotas as we speak. Ugly as f to boot...
tp_lovell GE makes wind turbines.
law_dog2 We have a plant in Columbus Nebraska that makes them.
badseedc There is a big production site in Poland recently taken over by General Electric...😉
antonios_gems Lol. On my drive to New Mexico a few months ago I spotted at least one windmill blade grave yard. I don't know what they could do with those blades once they go out of commission.
mikebryan504 However you want to look at it. None of these renewable energy devices are made or function without using fossil fuels. 2 likes
weirdo_on_the_wall @laruetactical ML @generalelectric makes the majority of the blades for on shore applications in New Orleans or Pensacola. For offshore wind turbines they are in Saint-Nazerre, France.
gmcpcs Don't they haul them up from Mexico?
treetopkiller1 They are made close to installation site due transport difficulty. Vestas makes blades and columns in Oregon for install in NW states. I see the trucks all the time on I84.
tehlonz looks like economical and abundant fossil fuels make wind turbines possible. 😂 1 like
- large_tall @tehlonz they haul everything to the build sites using only Tesla trucks and Priuses. Ever see 8 Priuses harnessed up 2x4 all pulling together for a common goal? It's breathtaking.
- tehlonz @large_tall_bear 😂
myopicmusashi Look up where railroad track is manufactured...then shipped across the Pacific
droperator69 I used to work on a wind farm. There's so much waste that goes into maintaining these. Plus most of the generator components are made in China . 2 likes
tuckerdean381 Spain
thecannonclark @laruetactical @tpi_composites
michigan_great_outdoors I feel like its always windy anymore, are we creating more wind in the world?? 2 likes
- laruetactical @michigan_great_outdoors ... LOL 😂 3 likes
- rbailey2207 @michigan_great_outdoors hot air every time Politicians speak. 1 like
rcoloc Vestas blades and bases are made in Pueblo Colorado. Transported via semi and train from there.
petespinks I installed Vestas turbines in central TX a few years ago. Vestas is a danish company. As I recall, all the structural components were made there
johnvaldezgfy All components are made in China. Except for a very small portion out of Germany.
squints_mfb Also, almost all of our actual combat roles are being done by contractors and SF anyway, no reason to have a large presence there
458_socalm My work is gearing up for a windmill plant in southern Nj, gonna be shipping them out just as shown from what I've seen plans for
co.dy5766 I used to work for Siemens in fort Madison Iowa. They brought people from Denmark to teach us how to repair the fiberglass. Siemens has some in sweet water Texas.
lenchowoll @laruetactical they are being made down the street from one of my factories in Juarez Mexico.
_kevins72 https://www.bizvibe.com/blog/energy-and-fuels/top-10-wind-turbine-manufacturers-world/
_cousinvinny_ @laruetactical look into how they dispose of these wind turbines. Spoiler alert: they don't. They sit in massive graveyards all over south Texas because the fiberglass they use can not be recycled. 1 like
claycanning Most turbines in the US have their parts made in the US. I'm in the renewable business
- laruetactical @claycanning ... Renewable ... ? How is it "renewable" energy ? 11 likes
- claycanning @laruetactical because the wind and sun resources aren't depleted when used for energy unlike coal and gas 8 likes
- chip988 #nuclearpower 5 likes
- chip988 @claycanning how long does it take for a windmill to produce enough energy to overcome the deficit to build them (assuming it's in an optimal location)? What is the expected operating lifespan of a windmill? 7 likes
- claycanning @chip988 I don't have the math on the first part. Useful life is assumed to be 30-35 years. 1 like
- claycanning @chip988 nuclear is good, but super expensive compared to the alternative and it's us not the utilities that end up paying for that. Water use is very high, which matters in some regions. 1 like
- tackdriv3r @claycanning Who do you think ends up paying for "renewables"? Hint: It's not the utilities! ROFLMAO. 3 likes
- claycanning @tackdriv3r same for all power, but they're cheaper than new build coal and gas so they're a good choice for the ratepayer 3 likes
- tackdriv3r @claycanning They are most certainly not.
- mzwizzle @claycanning I have to turn the clock way back to find the source on this, but I've read that the total amount of coal and energy used to smelt and form the steel for these turbines is greater than they can produce in 40-50 years by a large margin, not including energy used in maintenance and upkeep. 4 likes
- claycanning @mzwizzle that data is probably obsolete now. These things are built by for profit companies not charities 3 likes
- claycanning @tackdriv3r then why are the most successful utilities contracting them? 1 like
- claycanning @tackdriv3r unless you're talking about offshore wind. That stuff is dumb and way too expensive for the ratepayer 1 like
- tackdriv3r @claycanning Because they bake the cost into their rates (rate base). They are making money by simply installing it! Do you ever hear them complain about the renewable energy standards which force them to install these types of energy sources? I mean *really* push back? Of course not, because it's a revenue stream for them where they can collect the cost+ for installing them. What a sweet deal, eh? On top of that they get to charge their ratepayers a special "green energy rate". They are not displacing any energy either because they have to install gas generation to back up these intermittent renewable sources (a two for one hit to the the ratepayers bills). It's a gigantic ponzi scheme backed by Uncle Sam and the the ratepayers are footing the bill. 🤷 1 like
- claycanning @tackdriv3r I've seen the economics behind these deals. In a lot of places it is in the ratepayer's interest to include renewables. That will probably change when we have significantly higher penetration, but we're not close to that yet 1 like
- mzwizzle @claycanning it may very well be obsolete, but saying a for profit company wouldn't produce such a thing as proof is pretty weak. Market exists for an item because demand exists, and the financial cost of investing in renewable energy might be present whioe completely ignoring the offset/total loss created by unclean energy in the production of the turbines. Around 170 tons of coal is used to smelt and form the iron ore and steel for windmills. They may over the course of their life "pay back" that energy but there's still a large cost of unclean energy involved. Do we have any data that this cost is consistently repaid during the lifetime energy production of windmills? A high level cost benefit analysis has likely been made that doesn't consider the carbon footprint imbalance between the two. 1 like
- bluesrt10 @mzwizzle From what I have read, it is very difficult to determine a "payback " rate because their economic productivity is dependent on the wind.
- claycanning @bluesrt10 it's also hard to determine payback for fossil plants with changing fuel prices 1 like
- tackdriv3r @claycanning There is absolutely no positive effect to the ratepayer for having renewables. None. And since you like to remind everyone of your resume, I'll add in that I'm also in the industry and know how the scams work and how people like you work. 1 like
- bluesrt10 @claycanning Not true. Fossil fuel pricing has trends where you can derive pricing averages for a cost/benefit calculation. The wind is an unpredictable variable. 1 like
- claycanning @bluesrt10 true, and you can hedge them 1 like
- claycanning @tackdriv3r obviously, I'm not going to convince you. I believe strongly in the industry and think the valuations and performance of the companies involved are hard to discredit 1 like
- mzwizzle @bluesrt10 and I don't doubt that for a bit, I traced the info I was looking for back to a book from a professor in Canada. He's had his words twisted around a bit, but in his study he concluded the same thing you stated, that a windmill could payback it's energy in 3 years or never. But the main point I'm trying to explore and hopefully gather more insight on is whether the trade-off we're making in the name of clean energy is actually effective in more than name only
- claycanning @mzwizzle solar is going to pass wind basically everywhere before you know it and then we can stop arguing about wind turbines so much 2 likes
- mzwizzle @claycanning yet there's hundreds of thousands if not millions of turbines around the world today, and they're still being produced. Maybe not in the large factor that used to be, but they're still in common use. Solar panels don't take mountains of coal to make, but they'd be subject to the same standard of energy production and efficiency, as would nuclear or anything else. Why steer away from the analysis of turbines and their comparative energy production when that's the center of this discussion? Everything we use today will probably be obsolete in favor of a technology that's in its infant stages today, but applying a standard of measure for the effectiveness of a solution that's based on verifiable net results instead of intent will help us prevent wasting energy in the future chasing down bad solutions that are based upon intent instead of outcome 1 like
- claycanning @mzwizzle because instagram is a terrible medium to have a productive discussion. Wind is a bridging technology. A ton is being built because it's priced right and inputs are in that price. People buying it don't care about the inputs to production, just the cost of production. 1 like
- mzwizzle @claycanning true on both counts. My approach to the discussion is to hopefully learn about the inputs to production, as I've heard wildly varying claims and want to know more definitive ends to the subject 1 like
- claycanning @mzwizzle that part is not my expertise. My job is getting them contracted and built 2 likes
- large_tall @claycanning wind and solar are both the same scam. Taxpayers funding virtue signaling to prop up the climate narrative.
- claycanning @large_tall_bear that's true for offshore wind. It's not true for modern land based utility scale wind and solar. They'll still be price competitive when the tax credits end. Check out the recently published Lazard LCOE stats
- l_to_the_bry @claycanning GE's aren't.
- flom175 @claycanning the majority of wind farms are actually being shut down. As it is an ineffective source of energy.
- ekimsteffes @claycanning because government incentives, because everyone wants to be green and save the planet...right??? You believe in the renewable industry, because you think you are doing the "eco-conscious" thing for that baby you are holding, and that somehow by salving your guilt, and following the hypocritical alternative energy source religion, your kid will not want to burn you at the stake for your decisions. However...right now, these turbines cost more, both financially and resoucefully, than they can EVER pay back. Have a great peaceful sleep on false doctrine, bud. Get woke...go broke.
- claycanning @ekimsteffes yup, you totally got me there
- xdroptop @claycanning My neighborhood is powered by turbines its crazy cheap, I love it :) 1 like
big_shooter01 Most likely Germany.
rancknarok CHYNUH 2 likes
notgeffbezos Not sure who makes them but I know the blades aren't recyclable so once they wear out the just burying them in the landfill like everything else. Wonderful green energy, so good for the earth 🙄 2 likes
ashereastburn South Korea seems like the culprit... they make most of the ships bringin em over so why not?
dustinstapp @laruetactical you'll need to be more specific to get a good answer, which components, just the propellers?
- dustinstapp @laruetactical a lot of the baldes are made by LM Wind in Castillon Spain. You can't really assure that a blade on a turbine you see in West Texas is made there, any more than you can guarantee a random truck in West Texas is a Ford... But that's one example.
wbrom42 Some of the propellers are made in Gainesville Texas. It's one of my customers. 1 like
ful_crcl LM Glasfiber was making some stuff
bderby88 Siemens has a production factory in Hutchinson Kansas
usmcsean53 Denmark makes a lot of the blades.
kidsandcamo I dunno, but taking my daughter to Tech the other day was eye opening about the amount of turbines out that way. Wow.
thecannonclark There is a manufacturer in Newton, Iowa that produces the blade components. 🤷
kodiak_precision I understand once the reach their service life it's virtually impossible to dispose of them . More waste! 6 likes
- texash17 @kodiak_precision Their service life is 20-25 years. The first generation is just now in the process of being broken down and recycled. Sounds like an emerging market. 1 like
- laruetactical @texash17 ... Can they be used to make the Great Boondoggle Reef ? 4 likes
- dustinstapp @kodiak_precision I know this gunsmith named Don who could make them into neat gun parts!
- texash17 @laruetactical Probably smarter to grind up and use as a building material. Or recycle into new blades. Dumping stuff into the ocean under the guise of building a reef does not make sense. 2 likes
jaredinoz The Siemens plant in Hutchinson, KS makes the nacelle. They are not doing well. Hutch newspaper posts articles of them laying people off all the dam time.
vonwolffe I believe they're made in Europe. Netherlands maybe. They ship into Freeport, TX
81tactical I don't know who makes them I just know they're freaking long, takes three trailers to haul one blade lol
big_rob_and_abby_show Lots of blades at the landfill in Abilene. Used to see them when I hauled oil base cuttings there.
crackle_n_popofficial Those are blades(with cans standing up behind them) . Blades attach to hubs. Hubs attach to nacelle.
johnnyray713 Seimens more than likely. When I get on a windmill train it's Seimens parts. I get on those trains coming from Port of Houston/Corpus Christi
miniderblank It varies the turbines I worked with were out of warranty (Nortank 75s) so it was whoever could make a retro parts. Then the bigger ones (Vestas V90s) those all brought in from the Netherlands.
billsnearly D.C. Isn't that where all the hot air originates? 🤣
skipjack86 When I lived in Austin (wells branch Blvd) before I moved to Leander, I saw some stored in the Westinghouse factory out I-35 by the Roundrock area
jea_t_o_n TPI composites has a large scale facility here in Iowa
93redbeard Been puttin em up here in central il like crazy! Local windfarm had to shut em down this harvest because brand new blades kept snapping. Didnt want one to fall on a farmer. I honestly do see the efficiency of em. If you watch them build em, they use a fuck ton of fossil fuels if you wanna play by their book 🤷 3 likes
- laruetactical @93redbeard ... This just in !! Local corn picker's picker impaled !! 4 likes
- 93redbeard @laruetactical 🤣😂😂 a local that makes signs actually made a bunch that said "caution, falling windmills, drive at your own risk". The company putting the windmills up didnt find it near as funny as us. 4 days and all the signs were gone 5 likes
- 93redbeard @iron_heart_kogz 1 fuck ton equals 7 metric shit tons
gatorbait1088 @laruetactical look up how they dispose of them....🤦🤔😞
specterpines Looks like Vestas components from Windsor, Colorado 1 like
- laruetactical @specterpines ... Windsor ? How apropos 3 likes
- catsncartridges @laruetactical hey now, we're actually pretty conservative over here. Just happens to be a good place for a manufacturing business in CO. 😁
snipertuttle GE Renewable Energy has a turbine manufacturing facility in Pensacola, Florida and a blade facility in New Orleans, Louisiana, as well as an advanced manufacturing research center in South Carolina.
landonroach_ Not sure who is making them, but I see these being unloaded from vessels daily in the port of Houston. Seems to me they are being imported from overseas.
robert.king.tx A couple of blowhards from California? They know all about wind movements. 😂 1 like
southdakotatactical Molded Fiberglass Company Aberdeen South Dakota.
caleb_b919 M.L how do you feel about trump pulling us out of Afgan? I'm just wondering other peoples opinions on that. 3 likes
- calebfuller8 @caleb_b919 maybe ask people who've been there. 4 likes
- caleb_b919 @calebfuller8 well that's why I'm in Mr. Larry's comment section, plenty of vets follow him...
- laruetactical @caleb_b919 ... I'm guessing we'll still have echelons of security on call and stacked to FL450 with the glow plugs kept white hot. 7 likes
- caleb_b919 Thank you Mr. Larue
- etmunk @caleb_b919 deployed there in '12. We've been there way too long 7 likes
- caleb_b919 @etmunk Can I send you a link to something that got me fired up, I thought liberals have been pushing for this since the war started down there? But I've been seeing videos of them super mad about this and it's confusing me because it seems that anything our president does, they hate, and it's super hypocritical... 1 like
- etmunk @caleb_b919 sure
- caleb_b919 @etmunk https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJaDRPrs/
- caleb_b919 @etmunk it's a video of an ex troop venting about his hate for trump (he was a civilian medic)
- squints_mfb @caleb_b919 I was there in 2010. It's a lost cause, they are selling most of their mineral rights to China and there is no military advantage it would provide that can't be provided cheaper in the same geographical region. 4 likes
- sams_foodnfish @m4ttwick you don't have to be, you're correct. But asking someone who has been there will yield a different answer than the folks that greet us at home like "THANKS FOR DEFENDING MY FREEDOM" ...mam, that's not what I did there.
- sams_foodnfish @m4ttwick In my eight years I don't recall seeing any direct correlation between what we were doing and "our freedom". We did have purposes there and we did good things and I do believe in what I was doing... but no it wasn't "fighting for your rights". Haqqani network isn't planning to crush the American way. That's not at all what was happening there.
the_og_brad Possible TPI but there are many manufacturers for blades. Some made in Iowa for instance 1 like
joe.numbers I know LM Windpower makes a lot of them in Spain. I believe they make them for GE. There's more I'm sure but that's one of them.
ozgood03 Some blades are made somewhere in Lousiana and some are made in northern Colorado (Vestas). Vestas alao has a Nacelle (bix box on top) factory in Denver and a tower factory in Pueblo. There's a new windfarm going up along 83 somewhere around the Eden and Painted Rock area, Maverick Creek i think its called.
the.dmeier CHINA
snipertuttle There are some made in China as well.
revere95 More Communist Chinese, worthless, SHIT to fill the landfills!
i_am_the_fos Saw this exact ship docked in Sarnia, ON over the past weekend
texash17 Seimens out of the Netherlands is the largest producer. 2 likes
- texash17 @texash17 *siemens 1 like
- laruetactical @texash17 ... And who are they having actually make them ?
- maligator15 @texash17 *seamens🤣🤣 2 likes
- the_og_brad @texash17 doubtful siemens has more towers than GE, at least back when I worked on them 1 like
- texash17 @laruetactical their subsidiary in Spain. Same reason why Spain does a bunch of large composite construction. Affordable skilled labor and infrastructure. GE makes theirs on the Isle of Wight and a couple different spots in Europe. 3 likes
- alxdrlarue I actually did an internship at a company near Bremen, Germany that made the middle piece of the windmills out of fiber glass. They make tons of those around the clock. That was back in 2014 1 like
- jfull212 @maligator15 sea mans
- adwel12 @texash17 Siemens Gamesa has a factory in Hutchinson Kansas
- resoluteraider @maligator15 *semen
dbaz88 TPI Composites makes some too.